#83835: "Set up of the base game not respected"
どうしましたか?以下から選んでください
どうしましたか?以下から選んでください
同一内容の報告がないか、ご確認ください
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
Yes at the set up• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
Yes at the set up• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
Yes at the set up• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
Yes at the set up• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
Yes at the set up• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
Yes at the set up• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
Actually, when you start a game, you choose an appentice. Normaly, in the base game, you don't choose an appentice.
This rule exists only with the extension which is not proposed in the options.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v111
報告履歴
•Players will get to draft one starting apprentice in reverse turn order (Page 3 of Age of Artisans rulebook).
•When placing a Worker on the 3rd slot in the first 3 rows of the Guildhall discard both Apprentices in the left-most column on the Main Board and refill the empty spaces as normal. Any Silver on discarded Apprentice Cards should be returned to the Supply (Page 4 of Age of Artisans rulebook).
As described above, the rule changes have to be stated somewhere!
You're linking to a different version of the rules. This is confusing.
Like probably many other players of Architects of the West Kingdom, I've never played with an expansion. So when I opened up the BGA version and tried to play I was immediately confused why it was asking me to draft an apprentice. Confusion is never the reaction you should want from players.
I thought I'd been playing the game wrong all this time, so had to go back and check the rules, spent ages reading through them, only to find there was no mention of this rule. Then searched around the web until I finally found something mentioning it as a rule from an expansion.
That is a very poor user experience for someone familiar with the game and trying to play it on BGA. Like many other games on here, the rule changes really need to be implemented as options that can be selected when starting the game, as it's very confusing otherwise - especially seeming as the linked base game rules make no mention of those changes.
Fantastic work on the implementation otherwise though, this is the only issue I've found so far.
having it be an additional option would further divide the people playing on BGA (symmetric/asymmetric), and this is a good change.
I agree that this is not a bug as it is by design, perhaps a design choice that you don't like.
Fantastic implementation by the developer!
The problem is that this rule change is not stated anywhere any player would see it before playing.
But this being said, we should mention this in the "how to play" wiki and everyone can change the wiki of his own language.
Also, if there is a small text or file somewhere with just the changes, we might add a link to it in the rules section.
I'll leave all that to someone else as I'm not really playing this game.
報告に書き加える
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- F5キー(ページの再読込)で問題は解決されましたか?
- 問題は何回も起こりましたか?毎回 起こりますか?ランダムに起きますか?
- もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。