#23714: "game allowed me to break communication rules"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
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The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
報告履歴
If you want to communicate the game should check whether you can communicate the card you want, and then automatically place the token in the right place, whether that's highest, lowest, only, or middle and red face up if a dead zone.
And the rules say that if it's my only card, I should place my token in the middle. Yes, my only card will necessarily be also my highest and lowest, but only overrides that because it is more specific (just like the arrows at traffic lights override the disc)
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
I believe the rules intend the "if" to mean "if and only if" - ie the way most regular people would use the word if, not the way computer programmers would use it. Therefore, when the card is your only card of a colour the rules do not give you the choice of where to put it, it must go in the middle.
Even if it were allowed by the rules, I can't see that anyone would ever want to place it at the top or bottom when it's the only. It gives less information to your teammates and potentially confuses. The only possibility I can see is coming-up with some sort of convention where you say 1 is your highest or 9 is your lowest and it means some sort of special signal, but that seems like you're trying to break the game.
The placement of the radio communication tokens may
not be changed if the statement is no longer correct. For
example, a communicated “highest” card may become
the “only” card during the game. Nevertheless, the radio
communication token may not be moved.
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This clearly states that a communication of highest is not correct if it is your only card.
I agree that its suboptimal to clue it anything else if its your only card, however, BGA intends to implement the games as close to offline behavior as possible. Sub-optimal play or mistakes are part of any co-op. I don't think its fair to call it a bug when implemented as it is.
This could be put forth as a suggestion though. Just like picking up of the last task card.
(Secondarily, as jade_alarm mentioned earlier, this is a cooperative game: there's no reason to use up your very limited communication resource communicating less than is optimal.)
But primarily, this is just a bug: the rulebook clearly implies that an "only" card is NOT also a "highest" card. So there's at most one way to communicate about any card, and you shouldn't need to place the communication token manually.
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- F5キー(ページの再読込)で問題は解決されましたか?
- 問題は何回も起こりましたか?毎回 起こりますか?ランダムに起きますか?
- もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。