#125897: "Extra turn time for initial selections"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
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• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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This is a simple fix that should have been implemented within a second of suggesting it.
See what I did there?
Thanks!
I am adding more time after to compesate for it, but it will only kick in after selection.
3 min should be enought to choose your cards. If not you should play friendly/turn based game.
The turn timer for real-time Terraforming Mars is very short. Even on the slowest setting, it is only 2 minutes and 42 seconds.
Race for The Galaxy has a 5-minute option on the slowest setting, and that's a game that typically only takes 10 minutes TOTAL for a player to make all moves.
There was a spirited discussion a few months ago about a game analysis in which the OP of the thread had not taken the optimal line with the starting hand. High-level players plan out an opening strategy based on the optimal synergy from among their 2 starting corporations, 4 preludes, and 10 project cards. This takes time. And the advice from top players would be for all players to do this. The given time, even on the slowest setting, does not really provide sufficient thinking time to do this.
I very much like the idea of a button a player can click that says, "please give me extra time", as you suggested. At the start of the game, a player would have one such "time bank", and it would add, let's say, 2 minutes. Or whatever amount is deemed appropriate. And maybe every 25 minutes, one more "time bank'" can be added. Sometimes the doorbell rings, or nature calls, or whatever.
It would still feel rushed for choosing the corporation cards, since you have to go through all cards before making a strategy, however it will overall make it a bit better.
I play on the fastest setting, because normally for each turn there is plenty of time to play. It is only the selection phase that doesn't fit the normal game flow.
But, based on the fact that I've been (by multiple people) told it's not possible to add extra time to a specific move, such as the opening move, I don't see how a time bank would be possible either.
Oh, I just realized that I already talked about this in my recent post on May 27th in this very thread.
Okay, so, someone create a new, separate suggestion for "Split up the initial choosing of cards into separate turns for corporations, preludes, and project cards."
a few possible problems:
1) Suggestions can be upvoted but not downvoted. 20 upvotes means nothing if there are 40 people who would downvote if they could. Could someone create a poll in the regular discussion forum where people can vote yes or no?
2) This would add some nuisance back and forth at the start of turn-based games with 3+ players. My understanding is that turn-based players already get irritated when such things occur, hence the ongoing debate about taking single cations in TFM.
3) How would this work exactly? We see all 16 cards, but we need to lock in our corporation choice and then pass the action to the next player? And then, our corporation is locked in without any possibility of undo if we decide we'd rather go in the other direction? When I play preludes, I often change my mind numerous times during the initial card selection process (with regard to my corporation, preludes, and project cards.) The eventual selection is a synergistic choice, not, "Okay, I want Ecoline. CONFIRM. Okay, now let me see which preludes go well with Ecoline. CONFIRM. Okay, now let me see which project cards go well with these preludes. That's not how people typically make their initial selections.
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- もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
