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#119923: "End Game statistics are incorrect and misleading."
#119923: "End Game statistics are incorrect and misleading."
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表示バグ: 表示されるゲームの情報が間違っている(ゲーム上の重要事項を表示していない)
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表示バグ: 表示されるゲームの情報が間違っている(ゲーム上の重要事項を表示していない)
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v123
報告履歴
2024年 4月 5日 2:32 • Ditto11 • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Here's my turn by turn breakdown:
Turn 1: 12www3 (!: 2 )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5
# of 1! dice failed: 1 (the 2nd gear failed)
# of 2! dice rolled: 1
# of 2! dice failed: 0
Turn 2: 1r23w4ww (!: rw )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 10 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 2 ) (one white die failed)
# of 2! dice rolled: 3 ( 4 )
# of 2! dice failed: 1 ( 1 ) (one red die failed)
Turn 3: 1rrw (!: rrw )
# of 1! dice rolled: 2 ( 12 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 3 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 6 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 3 )
Turn 4: 123ww4w (!: 13w4 )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 17 )
# of 1! dice failed: 2 ( 5 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 8 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 5 )
Turn 5: 234rr1www (!: 3r )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 22 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 5 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 4 ( 12 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 7 )
Turn 6: 1www234 (!: w )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 27 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 6 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 14 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
Turn 7: 1rr234ww (!: 34 ) (Sec: w)
# of 1! dice rolled: 3 ( 30 ) *Rolled: 12w (the 2nd w was secured; not rolled)
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 16 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 9 )
Turn 8: 4321www (!: - )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 35 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 18 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 9: 2w341rrww (!: - )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 40 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 4 ( 22 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 10: 1234w (!: 1w )
# of 1! dice rolled: 3 ( 43 )
# of 1! dice failed: 2 ( 9 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 24 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 11: 1rr234www (!: 34 ) (Sec: 1rrwww)
# of 1! dice rolled: 1 ( 44 ) *Rolled: 2nd gear die only. others were secured.
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 26 ) *Rolled: 3 and 4 - two red were secured.
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 11 )
Here's google sheet to help track/count the values if you're interested in checking yourself.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LrW3U0X2MlTlkQHx2gGdq4MAb3AKtpNWCGDBqvLYllc/edit?usp=sharing
Turn 1: 12www3 (!: 2 )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5
# of 1! dice failed: 1 (the 2nd gear failed)
# of 2! dice rolled: 1
# of 2! dice failed: 0
Turn 2: 1r23w4ww (!: rw )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 10 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 2 ) (one white die failed)
# of 2! dice rolled: 3 ( 4 )
# of 2! dice failed: 1 ( 1 ) (one red die failed)
Turn 3: 1rrw (!: rrw )
# of 1! dice rolled: 2 ( 12 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 3 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 6 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 3 )
Turn 4: 123ww4w (!: 13w4 )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 17 )
# of 1! dice failed: 2 ( 5 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 8 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 5 )
Turn 5: 234rr1www (!: 3r )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 22 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 5 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 4 ( 12 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 7 )
Turn 6: 1www234 (!: w )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 27 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 6 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 14 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
Turn 7: 1rr234ww (!: 34 ) (Sec: w)
# of 1! dice rolled: 3 ( 30 ) *Rolled: 12w (the 2nd w was secured; not rolled)
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 16 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 9 )
Turn 8: 4321www (!: - )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 35 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 18 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 9: 2w341rrww (!: - )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 40 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 4 ( 22 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 10: 1234w (!: 1w )
# of 1! dice rolled: 3 ( 43 )
# of 1! dice failed: 2 ( 9 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 24 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 11: 1rr234www (!: 34 ) (Sec: 1rrwww)
# of 1! dice rolled: 1 ( 44 ) *Rolled: 2nd gear die only. others were secured.
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 26 ) *Rolled: 3 and 4 - two red were secured.
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 11 )
Here's google sheet to help track/count the values if you're interested in checking yourself.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LrW3U0X2MlTlkQHx2gGdq4MAb3AKtpNWCGDBqvLYllc/edit?usp=sharing
2024年 4月 5日 3:13 • Ditto11 • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Another example:
Table: 495925712
Norisring map, GT6.
I played simple and very safe, generated lightning bolts, and used those to secure as many rolls as I could.
It's clear the game is counting secured dice as "rolled" .. and that will skew statistics greatly ..
The shared google sheet in previous also has a tab for this game.
in game stats reports 23 1! dice rolled, but I secured two 1's. so should only be 21 rolled.
It also reports 16 2!, but should be 11, as I secured a 5,6 and 3x Red dice along the way.
As a result of this, the in game statistics are VERY generous .. reporting much lower %'s of "!" thrown than what is actually happening.
Very misleading.
Table: 495925712
Norisring map, GT6.
I played simple and very safe, generated lightning bolts, and used those to secure as many rolls as I could.
It's clear the game is counting secured dice as "rolled" .. and that will skew statistics greatly ..
The shared google sheet in previous also has a tab for this game.
in game stats reports 23 1! dice rolled, but I secured two 1's. so should only be 21 rolled.
It also reports 16 2!, but should be 11, as I secured a 5,6 and 3x Red dice along the way.
As a result of this, the in game statistics are VERY generous .. reporting much lower %'s of "!" thrown than what is actually happening.
Very misleading.
報告に書き加える
このバグを再現するため、またはあなたの提案を理解するために、ここに関連性があると思われるものを追加してください:
- 他のテーブルID/行動ID
- F5キー(ページの再読込)で問題は解決されましたか?
- 問題は何回も起こりましたか?毎回 起こりますか?ランダムに起きますか?
- もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
報告の進捗状況を次のように変更します:
bug?id=119923
