#87310: "Burgle Bros - Loitering check"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
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Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v112
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boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30165
In the linked .zip is a flowchart showing the logic, and it should be reasonable easy to fit into, and after some additionally games. and review, I think it should be reasonable robust.
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