#82856: "Provide verification of move "
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. -
• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. -
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. -
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. -
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
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• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. -
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. -
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
One thing I'd like to see is a "are you sure" verification message that includes the move that you're about to make - not sure if that is realistic but I find that I instinctively want to click on the card on my side of the board even if I really mean to click the card on the "other" side of the board.
I'm guessing it's a "me" thing, but it would be nice to at least have the option to turn move verification on/off. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v110
報告履歴
en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines#II-6_Avoid_move_confirmations
and it seems to me that selecting a card doesn't qualify for a confirm action. It happens on every turn and really isn't that complex. So I'd ask for more information about why users might want this and how it should work. There are 2 ways this might be handled:
A. You click on a card and it highlights the card, then you click "confirm" above and the move is executed.
B. You click on the card and the move is executed, then above in the bar you are given 2 options: "Confirm", which would have an automatic 5 or 10-second countdown timer, and "Undo", which would take the move back if clicked in time. I would not do this without the timer, as this would definitely fall in the "bogs the game down" category of the guidelines document.
These options would potentially fix the following issues:
1. The card zones are too close together and you sometimes mis-click on an adjacent card. I'm guessing this isn't the issue, but would be fixed by both A and B.
2. You realize after the card arrives in your pile that you miscalculated how many you already had, maybe by not considering your hand cards. This would likely not be fixed by A, only B, but is also fixed by just getting better at the game. In all games here and in real life, we sometimes have remorse after a bad move.
3. rafiki_33 said they sometimes click the reflection card opposite the one they want. That seems odd to me. What is more intuitive than clicking the card you actually want? More elaboration please. This may also be solved by just gaining a little more experience with the game.
Another thought I have considered if it is issue #2, is that your hand cards could actually be shown in your score piles per player, but not showing to the other player or to spectators, but this definitely violates the guideline here:
en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines#III-2_Be_careful_about_player_assistance
So... this long post is justifying my decision so far to not include any kind of move confirmation. The game is short, and you might get another opportunity to still win even if you blunder a round. I believe if I had a move confirmation, after you became more comfortable with the game, you would probably want it gone later. But, I am not 100% set on this, so please clarify your issue and proposed solution choices, even if they are not listed here.
Thanks! And I appreciate all this wonderful feedback!
If you'd implement it, I think it would be option B that you mentioned above - just to verify the card you're taking and the card you're giving - with said timer, and said option to turn on/off.
The game should be okay without, but it would help the mindless like me. Thanks for the quick reply.
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- もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。