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#82409: "Clean sheet doesn't work as planned"
fixed: バグは修正されました
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どういった内容ですか?
どうしましたか?以下から選んでください
ルール: ゲームのルールが正しく実装されていない
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
ElerCant couldn't use Clean sheet after he's moved his troops from battlefield 4 - obviously, because Clean sheet requires a target of his own fighter, but it's not clarified anywhere in the rules. This, either rules need to be updated, or Clean sheet doesn't work correctly.• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
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JudgeFredd • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
2023年 2月27日 18:09 • F5 doesn't help, and there's no way to cancel the troop movement, which is not a bug but annoys a lot, especially when playing using a smartphone with a high probability of a misclick on a tiny battlefield with curvy borders - we'd propose to implement a possibility of undo for any action which doesn't require a token draw or reveal. Or at least a confirmation button for any action, as an option!
thoun • これはバグではありません:
2023年 2月28日 18:10 • Seems pretty clear to me. It is said in the first line of the Clean Sheet tooltip. And I've copied it from the rulebook section of this card.
For the confirmation, I'll think about it !
For the confirmation, I'll think about it !
Idsky • これはバグではありません:
2023年 5月 9日 15:55 • This is the current English text:
Clean Sheet
Choose a Territory: remove all Fighters present there (yours and your opponent's).
These Fighters are returned to their colored bags and can rejoin the battle later.
This does NOT say that one of your fighters must be in the territory.
My understanding of reading this is it kills everything in the territory, and that IF there are any of yours in the territory, they will also be killed.
The first time I got it I tried and failed to use it on a territory with only enemy fighters and wondered what was wrong.
You have copied the text exactly from the manual, but that is a poor English translation too.
Here is an English translation of the original French (a little wordy but very clear in meaning):
Choose one of your Basic or Mercenary Fighters. Remove them from the Battlefield as well as ALL the other opposing and allied Basic Fighters or Mercenaries present, without exception, in the same Sector. These Fighters are returned to their original bag and may eventually come back into play later.
Even what it says you select (a territory) is wrong in the current English text.
I'll set the above as an English -> English translation fix request, but you might want to clean that up.
Clean Sheet
Choose a Territory: remove all Fighters present there (yours and your opponent's).
These Fighters are returned to their colored bags and can rejoin the battle later.
This does NOT say that one of your fighters must be in the territory.
My understanding of reading this is it kills everything in the territory, and that IF there are any of yours in the territory, they will also be killed.
The first time I got it I tried and failed to use it on a territory with only enemy fighters and wondered what was wrong.
You have copied the text exactly from the manual, but that is a poor English translation too.
Here is an English translation of the original French (a little wordy but very clear in meaning):
Choose one of your Basic or Mercenary Fighters. Remove them from the Battlefield as well as ALL the other opposing and allied Basic Fighters or Mercenaries present, without exception, in the same Sector. These Fighters are returned to their original bag and may eventually come back into play later.
Even what it says you select (a territory) is wrong in the current English text.
I'll set the above as an English -> English translation fix request, but you might want to clean that up.
Idsky • これはバグではありません:
2023年 5月 9日 16:05 • Oops, should be 'territory', not 'sector' -- I've updated the translation fix request.
thoun • これはバグではありません:
2023年 5月 9日 23:12 • I agree the english version is not very clear and french is more precise. I will set a clearer english text, I'll check with publisher if they have an official text for it.
thoun • バグは修正されました:
2023年 6月21日 16:13 • Your text is now the official english translation (so other languages need to rewrite it, in case they translated the bad englsh sentence). I added back the french version.
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