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#79050: "Improvement for the peasant objective line"
rejected: 開発者はそれは良い考えではない、あるいは費用対効果が低すぎると考えています
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提案:次項がゲームを大きく改善すると思われる
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Hello!
Concerning what we talked about yesterday in the chat about the peasant objective line:
This is much clearer now, but it implicates 'grammar' mistakes in many languages. I understand that now it shows either "0 cards", "≤ 1 card", "≤ 2 cards", "≤ 3 cards", and the ${sign} appears only if the figure is not 0, with the "≤ 1 card" being a distinct string.
But, in French, Spanish and German (and others I guess), 0 is not a plural name, because "nothing" cannot be plural.
So 0 cards is incorrect in these languages, and if we want to translate it to "0 carte" for example, then the "3 carte_" would be wrong...
Can I suggest to have then 3 chains :
- "= 0 cards" that will be translated according to the languages either in plural or singular
- "≤ 1 card"
- "≤ ${nb} cards"• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
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2023年 1月12日 13:18 • Philoupino • この提案はまだ開発者によって解析されていません:
"${sign} ${nb} cards" cannot be translated plural and singular in the same time
2023年 1月12日 13:42 • ufm • 開発者はそれは良い考えではない、あるいは費用対効果が低すぎると考えています:
Almost all (if not all) other games do not separate 0 / n plural as individual texts.
I personally hate attaching (s) at the end, but I don't think separating everything is the answer as I cannot make all translations in all languages correct without bloating translatable strings and it is not recommended generally.
I personally hate attaching (s) at the end, but I don't think separating everything is the answer as I cannot make all translations in all languages correct without bloating translatable strings and it is not recommended generally.
2023年 1月12日 15:00 • Philoupino • 開発者はそれは良い考えではない、あるいは費用対効果が低すぎると考えています:
It's true that there are often strings like "${nb} card(s)" and the nb can be 0, 1, 2 etc. But as you did a specific case for 1, I thought you wanted to avoid the "(s)" that we meet too much everywhere.
So now if you reject it, the result will be the string "${nb} cards" to be translated "${nb} card(s)" everywhere, and the "1 card" only will have no parenthesis... sorry but that's not very beautiful during the bids. Or we could translate the string "1 card" to "1 card(s)" so that it's the same consistent presentation. But then why is there a specific case for 1?
So now if you reject it, the result will be the string "${nb} cards" to be translated "${nb} card(s)" everywhere, and the "1 card" only will have no parenthesis... sorry but that's not very beautiful during the bids. Or we could translate the string "1 card" to "1 card(s)" so that it's the same consistent presentation. But then why is there a specific case for 1?
2023年 1月12日 22:27 • ufm • 開発者はそれは良い考えではない、あるいは費用対効果が低すぎると考えています:
Then you can add (s), remove something or do whatever stuff needed to fix grammar issues in your language.
Actually I do so in all games as Korean doesn't have singular/plural distinction.
1 is treated separately as majority of BGA users use English.
Actually I do so in all games as Korean doesn't have singular/plural distinction.
1 is treated separately as majority of BGA users use English.
2023年 1月13日 0:07 • Philoupino • 開発者はそれは良い考えではない、あるいは費用対効果が低すぎると考えています:
OK :/
For information I searched in which languages 0 is singular (or neutral) or plural, and italian, portuguese, romanian and hungarian use also a singular zero, and catalan uses both plural or singular depending on the situation
(but I didn't find a real list as this is a strange subject ;) )
Anyway, I still think that would be a nice and quite easy improvement for the game's presentation
/ also because I'm really perfectionist ;)
For information I searched in which languages 0 is singular (or neutral) or plural, and italian, portuguese, romanian and hungarian use also a singular zero, and catalan uses both plural or singular depending on the situation
(but I didn't find a real list as this is a strange subject ;) )
Anyway, I still think that would be a nice and quite easy improvement for the game's presentation
/ also because I'm really perfectionist ;)
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