#70334: ""Fast version"?"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 このバグのスクリーンショットをお持ちの場合は、お好みの画像ホスティングサービス(例えば、 snipboard.io など）をご利用し、コピー&ペーストしたリンクをここに書き込んでください。 このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
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• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• 表示の問題を説明してください このバグのスクリーンショットをお持ちの場合は、お好みの画像ホスティングサービス(例えば、 snipboard.io など）をご利用し、コピー&ペーストしたリンクをここに書き込んでください。
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 このバグのスクリーンショットをお持ちの場合は、お好みの画像ホスティングサービス(例えば、 snipboard.io など）をご利用し、コピー&ペーストしたリンクをここに書き込んでください。 このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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1) faster
2) every beginning is different, giving a (false?) sense of variety
3) I guess not terribly complicated to implement
Cons:
1) not the classic game
2) not sure how to avoid possible bias toward one or the other players
I'm sure the 2/3 of the game seems aimless to the non-initiated (to whom I more or less belong too, so I know rather well the feeling).
1) When discussing the details of the pie rule with the top DnB players on Little Golem (where arguably the strongest living DnB players meet), it has been implied that after the first approx. 5 moves of a 5x5 game (60 moves) the game is often already +/- oriented toward one of the player. In fact who plays first in the 5x5 game IS already winning (this is why I have implemented, as far as I know for the first time in the history of this game, a pie rule).
But this is simply a matter of not being very familiar with the strategy of the game. I have a very similar feeling while playing Chess (in which I am less than simply non-initiated!). Would you suggest a Chess implementation in which the first _n_ moves are random?
2) The second con you quote (how to avoid favouring either player with random moves) is a BIG con: in practice those 15 random moves (out of 60) would decide the game instead of the players! This would transform the game from a random-free, total information game into an almost purely chance game.
These are the major reasons why I deeply disagree with this (ingenuous!) proposal; I'm sure over time I could think of others!
thx for the explanation and ur time
W.
www.docdroid.net/2Ch8voZ/dots-boxes-5x5-pdf#page=3
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