#69815: "Scoring with Black Powder unclear"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) -
• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
Final State
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 このバグのスクリーンショットをお持ちの場合は、お好みの画像ホスティングサービス(例えば、 snipboard.io など)をご利用し、コピー&ペーストしたリンクをここに書き込んでください。 このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
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• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) -
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
Final State
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) -
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
Final State
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• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
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• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) -
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
Final State
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
-
• 表示の問題を説明してください このバグのスクリーンショットをお持ちの場合は、お好みの画像ホスティングサービス(例えば、 snipboard.io など)をご利用し、コピー&ペーストしたリンクをここに書き込んでください。
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
-
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 このバグのスクリーンショットをお持ちの場合は、お好みの画像ホスティングサービス(例えば、 snipboard.io など)をご利用し、コピー&ペーストしたリンクをここに書き込んでください。 このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
-
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
The scoring rules (official PDF and Game Help) say:
> Your final score is the total of the top cards on the five piles
Applying the rule as written, in the final situation 4-5-5-5-5-3 (cf screenshot) we would expect score of 27.
The game calculates 22 (cf screenshot).
Now, the rule doesn't seem to make much sense for Black Powder as it would penalize playing more cards.
Therefore, I suspect the scoring rule needs a rephrasing for the (unofficial?) Black Powder variant:
> Your final score is the total number of played cards.
This results in the same scores for non-Black-Powder games, and extends nicely to Black-Powder games.
With that rule, the score in the above scenario should be 27 as well (incidentally, since the top-most black card was 3).
A clearer example would be 4-5-5-5-5-2 (with black the right-most number) which yields 26 with the official rules as written, and 28 with the proposed alternative.
Either way, the 22 the game calculates seems to be wrong.
(Hypothesis: It calculates the score as usual, ignoring black, and then subtracts the number of unplayed black cards. There's no precedences for that calculation in the available rules texts; if it _is_ intended, the scoring rules for the Black Powder variant should be given accordingly.) • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Firefox 103.0
報告履歴
Your bug has probably been fixed already, or was linked to a temporary failure of BGA service.
In any case, when filling a bug report, make sure to have an explicit title linked to the incident (ex: with error message), so other players can recognize it and vote for it.
So, if you play with 5 colors + Black (= 6 colors), you can reach -5 + (6 × 5) = 25 points and not 30
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