#52849: "Wrong Highlights that can induce in error and cause erroneous bug reports"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
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This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
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This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
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• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
-
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v94
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- もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
