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#44475: "Rules seem to use a hybrid of modern and traditional bidding"
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
Bid 7 sixes over a bid of 6 threes.• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
Click the arrows that allow you to change the number of dice you bid.• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
The arrows that allow you to change the number of dice you bid were greyed out and couldn't be clicked.• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
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2021年 7月 8日 0:00 • BenCarey88 • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
We were playing with the recent update that allows using the traditional bidding style, where you can bid lower dice values over higher values so long as you increase the number of dice (thanks for making that update!)
My understanding of the traditional rules is that (excluding pacos) each bid has to fit one of the following two conditions:
- AT LEAST as many dice as the previous bid and a HIGHER VALUE on the dice
- MORE dice than the previous bid and ANY VALUE on the dice
It seems like the rules here instead require one of these two conditions:
- EXACTLY as many dice as the previous bid and a HIGHER VALUE on the dice
- MORE dice than the previous bid and A LOWER OR EQUAL VALUE on the dice
So for example I would expect to be able to bid 7 sixes over 6 threes, but the game will only let me bid 6 sixes. Is this a bug or do I just have a misunderstanding of the traditional rules?
Thanks :)
My understanding of the traditional rules is that (excluding pacos) each bid has to fit one of the following two conditions:
- AT LEAST as many dice as the previous bid and a HIGHER VALUE on the dice
- MORE dice than the previous bid and ANY VALUE on the dice
It seems like the rules here instead require one of these two conditions:
- EXACTLY as many dice as the previous bid and a HIGHER VALUE on the dice
- MORE dice than the previous bid and A LOWER OR EQUAL VALUE on the dice
So for example I would expect to be able to bid 7 sixes over 6 threes, but the game will only let me bid 6 sixes. Is this a bug or do I just have a misunderstanding of the traditional rules?
Thanks :)
2021年 7月 9日 10:19 • Valawala • バグは開発者に確認されました:
I actually noted this issue when adding the traditional bidding, but chose not to address it at the time for a couple of reasons:
- There are a lot of different sets of rules available for this game (including Liar's Dice, the commercially published game Perudo, and other online rules for traditional Perudo), and I haven't read most of them in any detail. I wanted to avoid changing something only to find out people already thought it was right how it was.
- There are no previously existing community requests for this change, and even if it is a correct reflection of most versions of the rules, I am hesitant to swap something people are definitely playing for something that they might also like to play.
For these reasons I will keep an eye on this bug and any similar reports that pop up, but it's likely that I will avoid making this change until/unless there is pressure from a lot of Perudo players to do so.
- There are a lot of different sets of rules available for this game (including Liar's Dice, the commercially published game Perudo, and other online rules for traditional Perudo), and I haven't read most of them in any detail. I wanted to avoid changing something only to find out people already thought it was right how it was.
- There are no previously existing community requests for this change, and even if it is a correct reflection of most versions of the rules, I am hesitant to swap something people are definitely playing for something that they might also like to play.
For these reasons I will keep an eye on this bug and any similar reports that pop up, but it's likely that I will avoid making this change until/unless there is pressure from a lot of Perudo players to do so.
2021年 7月 9日 10:27 • BenCarey88 • バグは開発者に確認されました:
Hey, thanks for the quick response! Yeah that makes sense, no worries :)
2021年 7月 9日 14:00 • emorrp1 • バグは開発者に確認されました:
Fair enough, adding my support to always be able to overbid. We played the commercial Perudo in the 90s.
2021年 7月28日 6:13 • mfl134 • バグは開発者に確認されました:
I agree that this is implemented differently than expect. 7 sixes should be a valid bid over 4 fours, but it is not allowed.
all higher bids should be allowed. the current implementation is some bizarra hybrid.
all higher bids should be allowed. the current implementation is some bizarra hybrid.
2022年 5月 9日 14:36 • Herian • バグは開発者に確認されました:
These rules make no sense. In a current game I'm playing, another player just raised from 6 fives to 7 pacos, an absolutely huge raise.
Then in the next round, the last player bid 5 threes and I want to bid fives but I'm limited to bidding 5 of them.
I should have the option to make a high bid if I want to, to pressure my opponents and try to make sure the action doesn't get back round to me.
I've been playing this game on BGA since before the traditional bidding style was introduced, but I didn't notice this restriction until now, possibly just because the scenario never came up where I wanted to make this kind of bid. I definitely think the game should allow higher bids of any number.
Then in the next round, the last player bid 5 threes and I want to bid fives but I'm limited to bidding 5 of them.
I should have the option to make a high bid if I want to, to pressure my opponents and try to make sure the action doesn't get back round to me.
I've been playing this game on BGA since before the traditional bidding style was introduced, but I didn't notice this restriction until now, possibly just because the scenario never came up where I wanted to make this kind of bid. I definitely think the game should allow higher bids of any number.
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