#40617: "poor position of map target for cubes"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
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• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Mozilla v5
報告履歴
I understand your point fully, but the reason I've gone with aiming for the centre of segments and not the front of them comes down to this being a simulation of a boardgame and not a simulation of a car race.
That is: if we were developing an online car race simulation, we'd DEFINITELY have the cars and cubes up against the front lines as you say. But we're instead simulating the experience of playing the boardgame (albeit with some nifty helps like snail trails, which are mainly to help people cope with the the turn-based nature of online play). When people play the boardgame, there is a tendency (obviously this is a generalisation) to put pieces roughly in the middle of the spaces rather than to move them to the front. It's nice, clean, easy to track and looks good and balanced.
That's what we're aiming for here.
I understand that it occasionally turns up some odd results with the snail trails, which for me is the strongest argument for "that's a bit suboptimal", but I don't consider that to be an actual problem: again, the snail trails are to assist players in getting a quick glance at who has moved where since their last turn, and in that regard they work fine: they're not intended to be a simulation of exactly how the car moved.
If I was hearing that the "cubes and cars in the middle of squares" approach was causing actual confusion, I'd give changing some serious consideration, but I haven't had that reported as being a problem. The abstraction of having cars and cubes appear in the middle of squares (including some curvy snail trails as a result) seems to not be causing any uncertainty or mistakes, so the decision between having cars and cubes at the front of or middle of segments is essentially a stylistic one.
I've checked all of this past David Short (the game designer) and he (like me) also fully understands the argument you're making, but is also happy to continue with the current approach.
Thanks again! I'll let you know if thoughts change.
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- もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
