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#26229: "Player that bids Abundance should be allowed to lead the hand"
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どういった内容ですか?
どうしましたか?以下から選んでください
ルール: ゲームのルールが正しく実装されていない
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
According to the Pagat rules you linked, this should work the same as in Wiezen.
If a player bids Abundance, they should be allowed to lead the hand instead of the first player after the dealer, right? -
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2020年10月14日 20:24 • wolmot • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
From pagat:
The player to the dealer's left leads to the first trick (unless the bid is abundance declared, in which case the bidder leads).
The player to the dealer's left leads to the first trick (unless the bid is abundance declared, in which case the bidder leads).
2020年10月15日 11:33 • wolmot • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Looks like this might be just my mistake.
I misinterpreted those rules as "unless player declared (bid) an Abundance", not only specifically for "Abundance Declared".
So it is correct that for normal Abundance, the bidder does not start the hand, but only for Abundance Declared?
I misinterpreted those rules as "unless player declared (bid) an Abundance", not only specifically for "Abundance Declared".
So it is correct that for normal Abundance, the bidder does not start the hand, but only for Abundance Declared?
2020年10月18日 12:01 • Jimblefredberry • これはバグではありません:
Sorry, I only just saw this but report. But yes, you have corrected yourself correctly haha! It is only in an abundance declared that you get the lead.
2020年11月27日 14:25 • JusterGame • これはバグではありません:
As I have always played since 1950's, abundance bidder does not play first - only 'declared' does. This is the approach described in 'Card Games' (Chambers).
Abundance is only 9 tricks, and would not have been bid unless player knew there was a good chance, despite an awkward lead, so doesn't need to extra 'bonus' of playing first.
'Declared' is so potentially endangered by a lead from elsewhere that the extra security of 'my own lead' IS sensible.
Abundance is only 9 tricks, and would not have been bid unless player knew there was a good chance, despite an awkward lead, so doesn't need to extra 'bonus' of playing first.
'Declared' is so potentially endangered by a lead from elsewhere that the extra security of 'my own lead' IS sensible.
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