#21657: "can't skip my turn although I'm blocked"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
current move #221... game on hold• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
current move #221... game on hold• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
current move #221... game on hold• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
current move #221... game on hold• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
current move #221... game on hold• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
current move #221... game on hold• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v84
報告履歴
Too bad for you, but you can’t pass.
Not a bug.
That's the same situation
Links:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2450459/faq-errata-june-2020
box.bestpractice-publishing.com/d/2c36fa0369d84f34b4d1/
And this is what it says:
Rules Changes
Forcing a LoC using the Overtaking and Minimum move Rules
In order to prevent a detrimental gaming experience where a car can, in the right circumstances,force another player to suffer a loss of control, we are making a change to the « Blocked » rules on page 13:
BLOCKED
Whilst moving, if:
- You cannot reach the Speed necessary to overtake other cars on the track OR
- Moving would cause you to suffer an immediate and unavoidable Loss of Control due to thepresence of another car OR
- You find yourself impeded in some other fashion Then you are considered « Blocked » this turn. Your turn ends immediately in your current spaceand Gear. Flip over your Gear Marker to show you have played your turn this round.
I'm not sure how to interpret the faq by the way:
* If the only way to make a first move is to lose control (because of another player's car but unless you have lots of damage on your car that would always be the case), do you have to consider yourself blocked or can you move forward and lose control if you want ?
It is also a bit tricky to develop, you basically have to check if there is a legal move that doesn't involve LOC then try again without cars around.
I know there was a rule change and some corners are changed but this one is not.
I remember moving this way was very painful for the other player but that was part of strategy.
I noticed this change immediately and I was sure all corners are changed. It seems this one was omitted.
And this is the same case as other corners so it shouldn't be a problem to develop, isn't it?
And if you say waiting will not help me in this game I will suffer - I was waiting previously as I was in Arena with other top players so loosing a game on top is causing a loss of a lot of points ;)
Make sure to make a confirmation. I would hate to click it by a mistake.
game: boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=109838811
move #463
In this game the player was not able to skip turn and he lost control of the car.
boardgamearena.com/9/rallymangt?table=137780153
Turn taken on 1/12/21 at 6:26 pm, it forced me to move a 3 (or higher) across a 1 line for instant spin.
boardgamearena.com/9/rallymangt?table=137525422
Turn taken 1/10/21 at 3:55 am, it forced me to skip turn instead giving me the option to cross a 1 line in 2nd. It would of wrecked me but not off track, so favorable to skipping turn.
Blue was forced to make a move that meant instant loss of control (00), whereas orange was forced to skip their turn, while a move with instant loss of control was also possible. This yielded an unfair advantage to orange during this game.
Blocked
If at any point during your turn:
- You cannot reach the Speed necessary to overtake the car in front of you OR
- Moving would cause you to suffer an immediate and unavoidable Loss of Control due to the presence of another car OR
- You find yourself impeded in some other fashion
Then you are considered "Blocked" this turn. Your turn ends immediately in your current space and Gear.
If you didn't move, flip over your Gear marker to show you have played your turn this round. If you did move, place a new Gear marker showing the speed you were in when you became blocked.
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- F5キー(ページの再読込)で問題は解決されましたか?
- 問題は何回も起こりましたか?毎回 起こりますか?ランダムに起きますか?
- もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。