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#127304: "Can't Move"
#127304: "Can't Move"
fixed: バグは修正されました
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どうしましたか?以下から選んでください
ルールによって認められている私のアクションが、インターフェイスの不備によりブロックされている
どうしましたか?以下から選んでください
ルールによって認められている私のアクションが、インターフェイスの不備によりブロックされている
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
Select a dice.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
Select a dice.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
Select a dice.
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• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
It just says Can't move. It will let me pass.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
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• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
Select a dice.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• 表示の問題を説明してください もしこのバグのスクリーンショットがあれば(素晴らしい!)、Imgur.com等を使ってアップロードし、リンクをコピー&ペーストしてください。
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
I want to move my car and no matter what dice I select it won't let me move.
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v125
報告履歴
2024年Jun13日 23:04 • steve-perkins • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
It would appear that another player can't move also.
2024年Jun14日 04:09 • ODaly • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
On BGG (in this post boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/article/41122244#41122244), JC specifically calls out that players may make an exception to be able to move into the shortcut if they have no other way forward. In the BGG illustration, it's an opponent that's blocking the cut, but the ruling can be applied to dirt tokens as well.
2024年Jun15日 00:08 • ODaly • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
All 3 remaining players in table 521803413 are now stuck. Game is impossible to continue.
2024年Jun16日 15:48 • Phoxtrot • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Yeah, I talked about this a long time ago, it was part of the difficult remaining things to handle
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=75256
The case in boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/doomed is actually the same as what is happening at the table here, it is just that the illustration represents the situation before the move that causes dirt to be sprayed (the blockage didn't really happen at the table at that time, I just realized that it could and went ahead to raise the question here and on BGK)
As noted above and in the old suggestion report, the answer from the designer is that the lanes rule should be the one that is dropped in this exceptional scenario so as to unblock the race.
They were talking of putting this into a FAQ, I don't know if they did.
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Important side note:
We didn't however get an answer on BGK to a second problem : what if the blocked car was already in the corner ?
- I think he should be allowed to continue but he'll get a LOC since the speed limit is 0. But that can be very harsh if he was sliding in the first space of the corner and has now to go LOC twice to get out...
- And/or, he could exceptionally be allowed to enter the shortcut from the corner.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=75256
The case in boardgamegeek.com/thread/2965914/doomed is actually the same as what is happening at the table here, it is just that the illustration represents the situation before the move that causes dirt to be sprayed (the blockage didn't really happen at the table at that time, I just realized that it could and went ahead to raise the question here and on BGK)
As noted above and in the old suggestion report, the answer from the designer is that the lanes rule should be the one that is dropped in this exceptional scenario so as to unblock the race.
They were talking of putting this into a FAQ, I don't know if they did.
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Important side note:
We didn't however get an answer on BGK to a second problem : what if the blocked car was already in the corner ?
- I think he should be allowed to continue but he'll get a LOC since the speed limit is 0. But that can be very harsh if he was sliding in the first space of the corner and has now to go LOC twice to get out...
- And/or, he could exceptionally be allowed to enter the shortcut from the corner.
2024年Jun17日 14:31 • BlueBeetle • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Table #521745410
Corner has been reduced to 0. Car not in position to use the shortcut. Cannot move at all.
imgur.com/a/AEuXi0T
Corner has been reduced to 0. Car not in position to use the shortcut. Cannot move at all.
imgur.com/a/AEuXi0T
2024年Jun26日 20:13 • klurejr • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Table #529385739
game does not correctly display what spaces are not open to move into and allows cars to move into them. Now my car is stuck and I cannot move. stuck in a skip turn loop.
game does not correctly display what spaces are not open to move into and allows cars to move into them. Now my car is stuck and I cannot move. stuck in a skip turn loop.
2024年Jul4日 13:17 • JohnG60 • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Rallyman Dirt Game Code 532078373
I cannot take a move.
When I click on any dice to plan a trajectory it does not "take" the action and stays on the plan trajectory screen. There is a couple of dirt obstacles adjacent to me but these should not have any effect. Game is currently blocked. I have dice 2/3/4 and one white dice available,I am in 3rd gear and going into a 2/1 corner.
F5 has not had any effect.
I cannot take a move.
When I click on any dice to plan a trajectory it does not "take" the action and stays on the plan trajectory screen. There is a couple of dirt obstacles adjacent to me but these should not have any effect. Game is currently blocked. I have dice 2/3/4 and one white dice available,I am in 3rd gear and going into a 2/1 corner.
F5 has not had any effect.
2024年Jul4日 17:25 • ODaly • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
The dirt tokens always affect the corner spaces for the tile they are on, but do not change the speed of the shortcut. A token would've turned that corner into a 1/0 corner and two or more would make the regular path through the corner completely impassable. Meanwhile the shortcut remains on it's original speed.
If you feel the token placement caused you to misunderstand the situation, please comment on bug?id=128571
If you feel the token placement caused you to misunderstand the situation, please comment on bug?id=128571
2024年Jul17日 19:44 • rafiki_33 • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Corner has been reduced to 0 while I was in it. I entered at -1 (the spaces I was on should have been 1) and then someone passed thru the shortcut while I was in the corner and reduced it to -2, making the corner 0 and stranding me mid-slide.
boardgamearena.com/10/rallymandirt?table=537737516&replayFrom=234
boardgamearena.com/10/rallymandirt?table=537737516&replayFrom=234
2024年Jul26日 16:50 • MyBoardGameAddiction • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Same here: 534161856
Please note I was somehow able to crash in a corner that was already at 0. Then unable to move forward.
Please note I was somehow able to crash in a corner that was already at 0. Then unable to move forward.
2024年Jul30日 23:43 • JeromeLon • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
table=541304199&replayFrom=2620
In this one there are indeed dirt tokens nearby, but no dirt token just in front of me, and I am still getting the "Can't move" whatever move I am trying to make.
In this one there are indeed dirt tokens nearby, but no dirt token just in front of me, and I am still getting the "Can't move" whatever move I am trying to make.
2024年Jul31日 00:27 • JeromeLon • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Here is a video of what it looks like from the player's perspective: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhQhCmii3dI
2024年Jul31日 01:18 • JitaKyoei • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Good morning,
participating in JeromeLon's game, seeing the video he shared, I think that it is not a bug, but a programming error which does not take into account two elements from the rules (these elements have for sources the rulebooks in French and leaves it to you to check that these elements are in the same places in the English rules):
- page 10 (green box): "if nothing prevents you from doing so, you must move at least one space per turn".
- page 15: "Special Cases: if you encounter a case that is not explained here, you are advised to resolve it in the way that seems most logical to you.
As it stands, JeromeLon should be able to advance around the corner of a square and suffer a Crash there. In the next round, he should be able to advance using Die 1 where several scenarios can be considered:
1. he is only allowed to advance one die 1 per turn, as long as he is in the impassable turn.
2. he can advance by one Dice 1 combined with the White or Orange Dice as long as he is in the impassable zone.
3. he does not have the right to make a Big Attack as long as part of the movement is underway, starting in an impassable zone.
4. he must still roll the selected Dice: if the Danger symbol appears, he suffers a Loss of Control.
participating in JeromeLon's game, seeing the video he shared, I think that it is not a bug, but a programming error which does not take into account two elements from the rules (these elements have for sources the rulebooks in French and leaves it to you to check that these elements are in the same places in the English rules):
- page 10 (green box): "if nothing prevents you from doing so, you must move at least one space per turn".
- page 15: "Special Cases: if you encounter a case that is not explained here, you are advised to resolve it in the way that seems most logical to you.
As it stands, JeromeLon should be able to advance around the corner of a square and suffer a Crash there. In the next round, he should be able to advance using Die 1 where several scenarios can be considered:
1. he is only allowed to advance one die 1 per turn, as long as he is in the impassable turn.
2. he can advance by one Dice 1 combined with the White or Orange Dice as long as he is in the impassable zone.
3. he does not have the right to make a Big Attack as long as part of the movement is underway, starting in an impassable zone.
4. he must still roll the selected Dice: if the Danger symbol appears, he suffers a Loss of Control.
2024年Aug3日 08:04 • ODaly • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Jerome, it's because the dirt tokens are affecting the corner spaces even though they are placed on the shortcut. The shortcut itself is not affected by the tokens, only the spaces on the road. I have made a report for this same issue here
/bug?id=128571
/bug?id=128571
2024年Aug22日 14:49 • derby-digital • バグは修正されました:
Hello,
we have released a new version and i should resolve the issue. It will only be available on new table (after 2024/08/22 15:00)
Thanks for your patience
we have released a new version and i should resolve the issue. It will only be available on new table (after 2024/08/22 15:00)
Thanks for your patience
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