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#125389: "Prelude Corp options"

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2024年May28日 13:00 • ThreadPacifist • この提案はまだ開発者によって解析されていません:

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2024年May28日 14:35 • Victoria_La • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

There should be 2 suggestions - one to implement official rule which is ok, and one to implement house rules which has different priority (and issues as it unlikely to get approved by publisher)

2024年May28日 14:46 • A Glitch • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

It is already an option on the official Steam implementation. Doesn't that mean there was already approval?

2024年May28日 15:30 • Der_Maister • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

How is it a house rule when Jacob Fryxelius overlooked the Steam implementation very thoroughly - e.g. preventing live score tracking because it was not in the official rules. Meanwhile he was completely fine with the option to leave out Prelude corps. If BGA wants to attract the best players, it is ridiculous to force them into an imbalanced mode (Prelude + Prelude corps)

2024年May29日 00:51 • ThreadPacifist • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

I don't consider this a house rule as this is how it is implemented on the steam version which is an officially supported version of the game which also has approval from the publisher. I took some screenshots of the options which are available. No prelude corps, prelude corp and a standard corp dealt out, and random dealing of prelude corps and standard corps.

imgur.com/a/z7UzJrv

2024年May29日 04:22 • Victoria_La • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

Not sure where is contridiction? As said house rule need publisher approval, they did approve it for steam app

We not trying to take away players from steam app - same company owns this app and bga ...

2024年Jun27日 23:55 • A Glitch • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

I am still unclear why the publisher needs to approve again, if it was already approved for the steam app.

If it does really need approval again, how can we start the process of obtaining it?

Again, allowing this option will greatly increase the skill cap of the game, as it is one that almost all of the highest ranked players on steam use.

2025年Apr14日 23:01 • Der_Maister • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

the option is so important to get competitive games ready, I can't fathom how much of a difference this would make. Please implement it

2025年Jul15日 01:01 • Corvus Mortis • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

This option is required to enable the most competitive variant of Terraforming Mars. It is clear the Fryx approved of this variant, as they already approved the Asmodee option (and several other user-suggested content has been vetoed by Fryx, so this is clearly an official variant). Furthermore, the Prelude rulebook explicitly offers the ability to mix-and-match the Base game with Preludes and Prelude corps, as below:

“ Variants: Deal each player 1 corporation from Prelude,
and 1 from the other corporations. If you want to play a
game without the Prelude cards, you may still keep the 7
project cards and the 5 corporations in the game.”

The above variant is referred to as “Highlight Draw” on the Steam application (it is clearly officially sanctioned and approved by Fryx). But this text also makes clear that you may play the Base Game with *or* without Prelude corps and cards.

2026年Feb19日 10:11 • Ghaleon • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

Please implement this option. It is very important for the Terraforming Mars competitive scene to be able to disable prelude corps, which add too much variance to the game.

The option already exists on the steam app (so has already been approved by Fryx). Of all the changes that could be made to Terraforming Mars on BGA, this really seems like the most important one for competitive players.

It is not a house rule. As Corvus Mortis said, this is not a house rule and is clearly stated as an option in the text of the rule book.

2026年Feb19日 10:46 • xspuipuke • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

It is a house rule. The text quoted by Corvus does not imply you can play Prelude without the Prelude corps. On the contrary: It says you can play without Preludes and still use the new corporations and project cards with the base game. Removing the new corporations is not offered as an option.

Whether or not this house rule has been sanctioned by Fryx Games for the Steam app is also not inferable from the fact that it is implemented in the Steam app, as neither you nor I know the contract between Asmodee Digital and Fryx. Plus, being another entity altogether, this house rule would need explicit approval for BGA nonetheless, even if they did approve it in the past for Steam.

Note that I'm just clarifying things. I'm not expressing an opinion whether or not this house rule should be implemented or not.

2026年Feb19日 12:01 • StrandedKnight • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

Two official variants are mentioned in the Prelude rulebook:
- Dealing one base corporation and one Prelude corporation to each player (known as "highlight draw")
- Playing with Prelude corporations and project cards but without the actual preludes.

The way the rulebook phrases this, it seems clear that these are merely suggestions of variants, and that the game encourages you to mix and match between corporations, preludes and project cards.

And indeed, FryxGames officially sanctioned the variant suggested in this issue for the Steam app.

Furthermore, this is a highly popular variant among competitive players that would strengthen the player base further and bring even more players over to BGA.

2026年Feb19日 15:08 • FrankJones • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

This has 61 upvotes and apparently these variants are suggested in the actual prelude rulebook.

That makes it worthy of discussion, at least. I will review my physical copy of the prelude rulebook and discuss this with the developer.

2026年Feb19日 15:55 • jaymc1130 • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

Thanks Frank! Once the rest of the expansions are added I think this becomes less of an issue from a competitive perspective, but in just Base plus Prelude the powerlevel of the Prelude corps is quite a bit higher than the Base corps and this dramatically increases variance. Once we have all the expansions here I think it will be less of a bugaboo since there are a lot of "OP" corps in the rest of the expansions too, but for the time being it would be a nice addition for those looking to play with the least amount of variance possible in competitive settings.

2026年Feb19日 23:01 • FrankJones • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

Let's assume we can implement one of these two variants as an option for whoever creates the game table. Which would be the best one?

I'm thinking the best option would allow for playing with prelude cards and the 7 (?) extra project cards but not the prelude corporations.

I'm not a big fan of the variant where each player gets 1 prelude corp and one non-prelude corp. That's still annoying for whoever doesn't get Vitor or Point Luna.

And, again, as a reminder to all who voted in this thread and participated in this discussion, I can't promise anything.

2026年Feb20日 02:00 • ThreadPacifist • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

Yes, I think that is the most desired feature by everyone who upvoted this suggestion.

2026年Feb20日 02:02 • ThreadPacifist • 開発者はこの提案に対して詳細を求めています:

I guess I should be more specific. Yes, I agree with your suggestion "I'm thinking the best option would allow for playing with prelude cards and the 7 (?) extra project cards but not the prelude corporations." as being the most desired feature.

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