#108032: "Loss and Damage's target unclear"
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• もしあれば、画面に表示されたエラーメッセージをコピー&ペーストしてください
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• 何をしたいか、何をしたか、何が起きたかを説明してください
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• ブロックされたときの表示は何でしたか(空のスクリーン?一部のみのゲームインターフェイス?エラーメッセージ?)
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• やりたかったゲームアクションは何ですか?
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• このゲームアクションを引き起こす為に何を試みましたか?
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• これを行おうとしたときに何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• どの段階でこの問題が起こりましたか?(画面の指示はどうなっていましたか)
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. -
• ゲームアクションを行おうとしたとき、何が起こりましたか?(エラーメッセージ、ステータスバーメッセージ、他)
• あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• 表示の問題を説明してください If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• あなたの言語の代わりに、表示されている英語の文章をコピー&ペーストしてください。 If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. このテキストは翻訳ページで翻訳可能になっていますか?もしそうならば、24時間以上前に翻訳されていますか?
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
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• 何を意味するのか、簡単に理解できるようにあなたの提案を正確かつ簡潔に説明してください。
It's not clear which Crisis the Loss and Damage Fund will apply to - near the end of our game we had a "Change in Major Weather Systems" result, so there were two cards added. When we were offered the option to discard for Loss and Damage, the Crisis it would apply to wasn't available anywhere in play. It was only after we'd passed on the discard that the crisis even appeared in the sidebar.
In general, the currently resolving Crisis card isn't well signaled - there's text in the sidebar and that's all, and especially when Change in Weather happens, there aren't even face down cards added to the display. That's marginally acceptable for the most part, since the sidebar text can be hovered over.
But Loss and Damage requires a selection _before_ the Crisis is revealed, which isn't how the rules work and isn't really fair. • あなたのブラウザは何ですか?
Google Chrome v117
報告履歴
I looked at your replay for 451669425 but while "Change in Major Weather Systems" did appear if I look at moves 210 to the end of the game it did not indicate that additional crisis cards were drawn. This is because it never reached a Tipping Point which is on spaces 5 and 6 for that effect.
Does that make sense? I'm not a developer and am not trying to refute what you are saying in the rest of your report but just wanted to note that from the replay for 451669425 I don't think any additional crisis cards were drawn due to the weather die.
> which then got marked "implemented."
It was marked as implemented because the suggestion you commented on, add "Loss and Damage Fund" to the title bar text, is implemented. You can add a different suggestion in a comment and reasonably expect the scope of the ticket to continually grow. If that were the case, users would just throw in unrelated improvements on popular suggestion tickets, effectively holding the suggestion completion hostage until the additional suggestions were implemented.
Now, I don't see any move number in your suggestion, so I've looked over your entire game, just like @TheInquisitor did. I don't see any point at which additional crisis cards were drawn. So I looked for a point at which a face-down crisis was about to be resolved on which you could activate Loss and Damage Fund. There's one such occurrence towards the end of move 210, the same move @TheInquisitor found. So I replayed that step by step and, wouldn't you know it, the crisis card in question (Fossil Fuel Subsidies) is flipped face up and displayed prominently when the Loss and Damage Fund appears.
If you have a table and move # I should look at to see the problem when crisis cards are drawn mid-turn, I'll take a look. Without any evidence to the contrary, I think the current presentation fulfills the suggestion with respect to the table submitted, so I'm marking this as implemented.
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- 問題は何回も起こりましたか?毎回 起こりますか?ランダムに起きますか?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
