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#106981: "Couldn't remove less than maximum plants"
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ルール: ゲームのルールが正しく実装されていない
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• BGAで正しく実装されていないルールはどの部分ですか?
Some (red) cards allow to remove "up to X plants". I understand that usually one would remove maximum number of plants allowed, but in my group of friends, we tend to use the effect more softly, often removing less plants.
I think it would be good to have such option, e.g. player-dependent setting which grants the ability to either select how many plants to discard (similarly as when paying for a card with non-money resources) or to always discard maximum. -
• ルールの間違いはゲームのリプレイで確認できますか?そうであれば、行動番号は何番ですか?
The game was at 83%, I don't know the exact number.
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Opera for Android
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2023年Dec12日 9:08 • xspuipuke • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
This MUST be fixed as it violates the rules right now.
Plus, in rare instances, it might make sense, even outside a friendly setting, to remove only part of a player's plants, e.g., to secure they are able to place 1 but not 2 forests, where 1 forest makes them 2nd for Landlord, thus robbing a third player, my contester for victory, of 2 points.
Plus, in rare instances, it might make sense, even outside a friendly setting, to remove only part of a player's plants, e.g., to secure they are able to place 1 but not 2 forests, where 1 forest makes them 2nd for Landlord, thus robbing a third player, my contester for victory, of 2 points.
2024年Jan26日 5:28 • Karlsen • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Agreed, it should be consistent with the rules which allow a player to remove less plants than the maximum, for whatever reason.
2024年Feb1日 0:37 • Victoria_La • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Yes it is 0 or all for now. Bottom of the stack for rule bugs as it seems to be very corner case.
2025年Jan17日 17:52 • daenk • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
Agreed, In some cases the only option is to remove my plants
2025年Apr14日 21:53 • FrankJones • バグは未だ開発者によって再現できていません:
You never have to remove your own plants. That's always optional.
You might need to reduce your own plant PRODUCTION if no one else has any to reduce and the card has mandatory production decrease (Birds, Fish, Small Animals, Herbivores, etc.)
I am no sure this bug report is accurate anyway. I recall reading on BGG that one must remove the maximum amount of plants possible, and the wording says "remove up to x plants" was to make sure people understand it is still playable card even if no one has x plants.
Think of it thematically: You can choose to crash the asteroids into a spot that has nobody's plants. But if you do decide the crash the asteroid into someone's field, you don't get to decide how much damage the asteroid does.
You might need to reduce your own plant PRODUCTION if no one else has any to reduce and the card has mandatory production decrease (Birds, Fish, Small Animals, Herbivores, etc.)
I am no sure this bug report is accurate anyway. I recall reading on BGG that one must remove the maximum amount of plants possible, and the wording says "remove up to x plants" was to make sure people understand it is still playable card even if no one has x plants.
Think of it thematically: You can choose to crash the asteroids into a spot that has nobody's plants. But if you do decide the crash the asteroid into someone's field, you don't get to decide how much damage the asteroid does.
2025年Jun9日 6:13 • FrankJones • バグは開発者に確認されました:
The consensus after talking to some people seems to be that it IS valid to remove less than the maximum number of plants.
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